{"id":42426,"date":"2019-04-22T14:40:15","date_gmt":"2019-04-22T14:40:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/?p=42426"},"modified":"2020-11-11T16:16:29","modified_gmt":"2020-11-11T16:16:29","slug":"tom-pettys-dont-do-me-like-that-inside-the-song-w-shelly-yakus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/tom-pettys-dont-do-me-like-that-inside-the-song-w-shelly-yakus\/","title":{"rendered":"Tom Petty&#8217;s &#8220;Don&#8217;t Do Me Like That&#8221;: Inside the Song w\/ Shelly Yakus"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"produ-leaderboard-placement\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;text-align: center;margin-bottom: 30px!important;\" id=\"produ-1385735522\"><script async=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/securepubads.g.doubleclick.net\/tag\/js\/gpt.js\"><\/script>\n<script> var googletag = googletag || {}; googletag.cmd = googletag.cmd || [];<\/script>\n<div id=\"gpt-ad-2418342532417-0\">\n  <script>\n\tgoogletag.cmd.push(function() {\n\t\t\t\tgoogletag.defineSlot( '\/21927241144\/728x90-Leaderboard', [728,90], 'gpt-ad-2418342532417-0' )\n\t\t.addService(googletag.pubads());\n\t\t\t\twindow.advadsGamEmptySlotsTimers = window.advadsGamEmptySlotsTimers || {};\n\t\tconst timers                     = window.advadsGamEmptySlotsTimers;\n\n\t\ttimers['gpt-ad-2418342532417-0'] = setTimeout( function () {\n\t\t\tconst id = 'gpt-ad-2418342532417-0';\n\t\t\tdocument.dispatchEvent( new CustomEvent( 'aagam_empty_slot', {detail: id} ) );\n\t\t\tdelete ( timers[id] );\n\t\t}, 1000 );\n\n\t\tif ( typeof window.advadsGamHasEmptySlotListener === 'undefined' ) {\n\t\t\tgoogletag.pubads().addEventListener( 'slotRequested', function ( ev ) {\n\t\t\t\tconst id = ev.slot.getSlotElementId();\n\t\t\t\tif ( typeof timers[id] === 'undefined' ) {\n\t\t\t\t\treturn;\n\t\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t\tclearTimeout( timers[id] );\n\t\t\t\ttimers[id] = setTimeout( function () {\n\t\t\t\t\tdocument.dispatchEvent( new CustomEvent( 'aagam_empty_slot', {detail: id} ) );\n\t\t\t\t\tdelete ( timers[id] );\n\t\t\t\t}, 2500 );\n\t\t\t} );\n\t\t\tgoogletag.pubads().addEventListener( 'slotResponseReceived', function ( ev ) {\n\t\t\t\tconst id = ev.slot.getSlotElementId();\n\t\t\t\tif ( typeof timers[id] !== 'undefined' ) {\n\t\t\t\t\tclearTimeout( timers[id] );\n\t\t\t\t\tdelete ( timers[id] );\n\t\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t\tif ( ! ev.slot.getResponseInformation() ) {\n\t\t\t\t\tdocument.dispatchEvent( new CustomEvent( 'aagam_empty_slot', {detail: id} ) );\n\t\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t} );\n\t\t\twindow.advadsGamHasEmptySlotListener = true;\n\t\t}\n\n\t\tgoogletag.enableServices();\n\t\tgoogletag.display( 'gpt-ad-2418342532417-0' );\n\t} );\n  <\/script>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><p>I recently sat down with my dear friend and mentor Shelly Yakus to talk about his experience recording some of the most iconic songs of all time. A couple weeks back we visited the multitrack from <a href=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/blue-oyster-cult-inside-the-song\/\">Blue Oyster Cult&#8217;s &#8220;(Don&#8217;t Fear) The Reaper,&#8221;<\/a> and this time we&#8217;ll be breaking down Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers&#8217; &#8220;Don&#8217;t Do Me Like That&#8221;!<\/p>\n<p>Shelly has had a phenomenal career. Not only is he a renowned producer and recording\/mixing engineer, but he\u2019s also heavily involved with modern recording tech as co-founder\/chief engineer of <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/aftermaster.com\">AfterMaster Audio Labs<\/a><\/strong>. Shelly is considered by his peers to be an absolute audio expert and one of the best engineers\/mixers\/studio designers in the industry. Needless to say, he\u2019s a living legend!<\/p>\n<p>Of course, he\u2019s also recorded and mixed many of the world\u2019s top artists. John Lennon, Stevie Nicks, Alice Cooper, Van Morrison, Tom Petty, Dire Straits, Bob Seger, Amy Grant, Don Henley, U2, and Madonna are but a few of his many, many credits.<\/p>\n<p>This time around, we had a chance to talk about his time recording\u00a0the\u00a0<strong>Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers classic, \u201cDon&#8217;t Do Me Like That.\u201d\u00a0<\/strong>Who better to talk about such a prominent song with than the man who was there to engineer it:\u00a0<strong>Shelly Yakus!\u00a0<\/strong>We were fortunate to be able to get\u00a0a ton of insight into the whole process, which is amazing with such legendary songs as these.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Check out the full breakdown:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"flex-video widescreen youtube\">\n<div class=\"container-lazyload preview-lazyload container-youtube js-lazyload--not-loaded\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=5zoCsq-oBjA\" class=\"lazy-load-youtube preview-lazyload preview-youtube\" data-video-title=\"Don&#039;t Do Me Like That - Tom Petty &amp; The Heartbreakers: Inside the Song w\/ Shelly Yakus\" title=\"Play video &quot;Don&#039;t Do Me Like That - Tom Petty &amp; The Heartbreakers: Inside the Song w\/ Shelly Yakus&quot;\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=5zoCsq-oBjA<\/a><noscript>Video can&#8217;t be loaded because JavaScript is disabled: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=5zoCsq-oBjA\" title=\"Don&#039;t Do Me Like That - Tom Petty &amp; The Heartbreakers: Inside the Song w\/ Shelly Yakus\">Don&#039;t Do Me Like That &#8211; Tom Petty &amp; The Heartbreakers: Inside the Song w\/ Shelly Yakus (https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=5zoCsq-oBjA)<\/a><\/noscript><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;Don&#8217;t Do Me Like That&#8221; was recorded at Sound City Studios in Los Angeles.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sound City is a renowned studio with a distinct sound. Studio A&#8217;s Neve 8028 console and acoustics made it one of the most desirable recording locations in Los Angeles and the world, with its signature sound heard on over 100 gold and platinum records. The studio opened in 1970 and officially closed in 2011, though it was reopened in early 2017. The Neve 8028, however, was purchased by Dave Grohl and installed in his private studio.\u00a0Sound City is now home to two Helios Type 69 consoles.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_42433\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-42433\" style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-42433 lazyload\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"420\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02.jpg 800w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-600x315.jpg 600w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-768x403.jpg 768w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-80x42.jpg 80w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-320x168.jpg 320w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-286x150.jpg 286w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-770x404.jpg 770w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-40x21.jpg 40w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-160x84.jpg 160w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-20x11.jpg 20w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-640x336.jpg 640w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-750x394.jpg 750w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-571x300.jpg 571w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-17x9.jpg 17w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity02-385x202.jpg 385w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-42433\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The famed Neve 8028 in Studio A.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Sound City Studios was especially known for having a <a href=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/classic-studio-techniques-getting-that-early-beatles-drum-sound\/\">very unique drum sound<\/a>. Toto drummer Jeff Porcaro has been quoted as saying that anybody can achieve a good drum sound as long as you set them up at Sound City.\u00a0Producer Rick Rubin\u00a0has also mentioned &#8220;guitars sound pretty much the same everywhere, but drums change from room to room, and the sound at Sound City was among the best.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Producer Greg Fidelman, before working on Metallica&#8217;s\u00a0<em>Death Magnetic<\/em>,\u00a0recorded a bass drum tone in several of the major recording studios in LA, playing the samples back for the band in a blind test. The band ended up choosing Sound City to record their album based solely on the way the kick drum sounded in the room!\u00a0In addition, when Nine Inch Nails\/Trent Reznor asked Dave Grohl to guest drum on a few songs, Grohl&#8217;s only condition was that it would be recorded at Sound City.<\/p>\n<p>Legend has it that the interior of Studio A has never been repainted or remodeled in case any changes would effect the acoustic quality of the space.\u00a0<sup id=\"cite_ref-mixonline_9-1\" class=\"reference\"><\/sup><\/p>\n<p><strong>Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers recorded &#8220;Don&#8217;t Do Me Like That&#8221; live.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Shelly noted that the band tracked all together in the main live room, using gobos to isolate guitar cabinets. This is a distinct way to record that was popular throughout the &#8217;60s and into the &#8217;70s, but has waned a bit in recent years as isolated sources have become the sound we associate with &#8220;perfect&#8221; production. It creates an organic feel that&#8217;s hard to replicate any other way, due in part to the bleed from other instruments.<\/p>\n<p>You can hear guitar stabs in the drum and bass stems we listened to! Bleed isn&#8217;t always a bad thing. In fact,\u00a0most of the album was recorded this way!<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_42434\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-42434\" style=\"width: 743px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-42434 lazyload\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"743\" height=\"490\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit.jpg 743w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-600x396.jpg 600w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-80x53.jpg 80w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-320x211.jpg 320w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-258x170.jpg 258w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-227x150.jpg 227w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-40x26.jpg 40w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-160x106.jpg 160w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-20x13.jpg 20w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-640x422.jpg 640w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-516x340.jpg 516w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-15x10.jpg 15w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-455x300.jpg 455w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-14x9.jpg 14w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/soundcity-tpetty-Edit-385x254.jpg 385w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 743px) 100vw, 743px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-42434\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tom Petty at Sound City, 1979.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Shelly recorded guitars with\u00a0three different mics.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The distinct, <a href=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/the-best-way-to-get-wider-acoustic-guitars-gullfoss-by-soundtheory\/\">mid-rangey guitar sound<\/a> was created using three <a href=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/the-6-microphones-you-need-to-know-about\/\">microphones from three different manufacturers<\/a>. As Shelly explains, each mic picks up its own version of the sound coming out of the cabinet. These different flavors come together to make a guitar tone what it is. He also panned the two outer mics while keeping the middle mic in the center.<\/p>\n<p>The winning combination? A 421, a 57, and a Beyerdynamic M160 in the middle!<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;Don&#8217;t Do Me Like That&#8221; was the first single from 1979&#8217;s\u00a0<em>Damn the Torpedoes.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Released in November 1979, the track reached #10 on the\u00a0<em>Billboard\u00a0<\/em>chart, making it the band&#8217;s first top ten single.<\/p>\n<p>Tom Petty wrote and recorded a demo with his previous band Mudcrutch as early as 1974. At one point he considered passing the song along to The J. Geils Band because he thought it was a good representation of their sound. During the <em>Damn the Torpedoes<\/em> sessions, he was convinced by\u00a0Jimmy Iovine to include it on the album because he felt they had a hit on their hands. Evidently, he would be correct!<sup id=\"cite_ref-3\" class=\"reference\"><\/sup><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-42435 lazyload\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"220\" height=\"219\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes.jpg 220w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-75x75.jpg 75w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-171x170.jpg 171w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-151x150.jpg 151w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-40x40.jpg 40w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-18x18.jpg 18w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-160x159.jpg 160w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-16x16.jpg 16w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-14x14.jpg 14w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-10x10.jpg 10w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-20x20.jpg 20w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/220px-TomPettytheHeartbreakersDamntheTorpedoes-9x9.jpg 9w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 220px) 100vw, 220px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>As an album,\u00a0<em>Damn the Torpedoes\u00a0<\/em>was a breakthrough. It was a top ten first, making it as high as #2 only behind <i>The Wall<\/i>. In addition to &#8220;Don&#8217;t Do Me Like That&#8221; making it to #10 as a single, &#8220;Refugee&#8221; would also go as high as #15. It&#8217;s largely considered one of the greatest rock albums of the era and of all time, with a 3x platinum certification.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently sat down with my dear friend and mentor Shelly Yakus to talk about his experience recording some of the most iconic songs of all time. 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