{"id":63294,"date":"2025-07-07T12:44:55","date_gmt":"2025-07-07T17:44:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/?p=63294"},"modified":"2025-07-07T12:52:06","modified_gmt":"2025-07-07T17:52:06","slug":"when-a-generic-hip-hop-beat-gets-you-copyright-struck-my-first-ever-rant-video-thanks-ash","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/when-a-generic-hip-hop-beat-gets-you-copyright-struck-my-first-ever-rant-video-thanks-ash\/","title":{"rendered":"When a Generic Hip Hop Beat Gets You Copyright Struck, My First Ever Rant Video (Thanks Ash)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"produ-leaderboard-placement\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;text-align: center;margin-bottom: 30px!important;\" id=\"produ-2846946384\"><script async=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/securepubads.g.doubleclick.net\/tag\/js\/gpt.js\"><\/script>\n<script> var googletag = googletag || {}; googletag.cmd = googletag.cmd || [];<\/script>\n<div id=\"gpt-ad-2807885772191-0\">\n  <script>\n\tgoogletag.cmd.push(function() {\n\t\t\t\tgoogletag.defineSlot( '\/21927241144\/728x90-Leaderboard', [728,90], 'gpt-ad-2807885772191-0' )\n\t\t.addService(googletag.pubads());\n\t\t\t\twindow.advadsGamEmptySlotsTimers = window.advadsGamEmptySlotsTimers || {};\n\t\tconst timers                     = window.advadsGamEmptySlotsTimers;\n\n\t\ttimers['gpt-ad-2807885772191-0'] = setTimeout( function () {\n\t\t\tconst id = 'gpt-ad-2807885772191-0';\n\t\t\tdocument.dispatchEvent( new CustomEvent( 'aagam_empty_slot', {detail: id} ) );\n\t\t\tdelete ( timers[id] );\n\t\t}, 1000 );\n\n\t\tif ( typeof window.advadsGamHasEmptySlotListener === 'undefined' ) {\n\t\t\tgoogletag.pubads().addEventListener( 'slotRequested', function ( ev ) {\n\t\t\t\tconst id = ev.slot.getSlotElementId();\n\t\t\t\tif ( typeof timers[id] === 'undefined' ) {\n\t\t\t\t\treturn;\n\t\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t\tclearTimeout( timers[id] );\n\t\t\t\ttimers[id] = setTimeout( function () {\n\t\t\t\t\tdocument.dispatchEvent( new CustomEvent( 'aagam_empty_slot', {detail: id} ) );\n\t\t\t\t\tdelete ( timers[id] );\n\t\t\t\t}, 2500 );\n\t\t\t} );\n\t\t\tgoogletag.pubads().addEventListener( 'slotResponseReceived', function ( ev ) {\n\t\t\t\tconst id = ev.slot.getSlotElementId();\n\t\t\t\tif ( typeof timers[id] !== 'undefined' ) {\n\t\t\t\t\tclearTimeout( timers[id] );\n\t\t\t\t\tdelete ( timers[id] );\n\t\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t\tif ( ! ev.slot.getResponseInformation() ) {\n\t\t\t\t\tdocument.dispatchEvent( new CustomEvent( 'aagam_empty_slot', {detail: id} ) );\n\t\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t} );\n\t\t\twindow.advadsGamHasEmptySlotListener = true;\n\t\t}\n\n\t\tgoogletag.enableServices();\n\t\tgoogletag.display( 'gpt-ad-2807885772191-0' );\n\t} );\n  <\/script>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div class=\"flex-video widescreen youtube\">\n<div class=\"container-lazyload preview-lazyload container-youtube js-lazyload--not-loaded\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pgRqHOj95jM\" class=\"lazy-load-youtube preview-lazyload preview-youtube\" data-video-title=\"RANT - I&#039;ve Never Done This Before! - My first and probably last one ever!\" title=\"Play video &quot;RANT - I&#039;ve Never Done This Before! - My first and probably last one ever!&quot;\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pgRqHOj95jM<\/a><noscript>Video can&#8217;t be loaded because JavaScript is disabled: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pgRqHOj95jM\" title=\"RANT - I&#039;ve Never Done This Before! - My first and probably last one ever!\">RANT &#8211; I&#039;ve Never Done This Before! &#8211; My first and probably last one ever! (https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pgRqHOj95jM)<\/a><\/noscript><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>So\u2026 this is a first for me.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>In over 3,500 videos on the channel, I\u2019ve never done a rant video. Not once. But after a phone call with the great Ash Soan, following his conversation with a producer friend, we decided it was time. Because this situation? It\u2019s too ridiculous not to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>We posted a fantastic new video with Ash just a couple of days ago. In it, he demonstrates a\u00a0<em>generic<\/em>\u00a0retro hip hop style drum beat, nothing lifted, no sample, just a one-handed 16th note groove to illustrate tone. You know, dry, crunchy, classic hip hop drum sound. And then\u2026 boom.\u00a0<strong>Copyright strike.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Not from the artist who might have inspired the sound. Not even from the label. No, this came from an automated system that decided Ash\u2019s beat sounded too much like a track by Logic (<em>Indica Badu<\/em>, featuring Wiz Khalifa), not because of the composition, not because of a melody, but because the beat had a\u00a0<em>similar tempo and tone.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s it. No kick pattern lifted. No snare placement cloned. Just a vibe.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-63300 aligncenter lazyload\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"835\" height=\"470\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-scaled.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-150x84.jpg 150w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-2048x1152.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-80x45.jpg 80w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-320x180.jpg 320w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-302x170.jpg 302w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-267x150.jpg 267w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-40x23.jpg 40w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-160x90.jpg 160w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-20x11.jpg 20w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-640x360.jpg 640w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-1077x606.jpg 1077w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-604x340.jpg 604w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-533x300.jpg 533w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-16x9.jpg 16w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-385x217.jpg 385w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_03_45_12.Still003-1540x866.jpg 1540w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 835px) 100vw, 835px\" \/><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Now, Ash was at Terminal 5 at Heathrow when I called him to tell him we\u2019d been struck. He couldn\u2019t believe it. And neither could I. And after speaking with his producer friend about how ridiculous it was, we decided to do something I never do, make a rant video.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>The whole thing is comedy gold, really. We can\u2019t even play the clip of Ash\u2019s beat or the Logic track in this article or video, because doing so would just trigger another copyright strike. Imagine that. YouTube&#8217;s systems are so sensitive that the\u00a0<em>tone<\/em>\u00a0of a drum kit can be enough to lose monetisation.<\/p>\n<p>And this is where things get even weirder.<\/p>\n<p>Over the years, I\u2019ve posted a lot of covers, songs by Sabbath, Zeppelin, and more, always expecting that the original artist (or their estate) would claim the income. That\u2019s fair. But lately, I\u2019ve been getting claims not from the artists, but from\u00a0<strong>cover bands<\/strong>\u00a0claiming they own the rights to\u00a0<em>their<\/em>\u00a0cover version of a song I\u2019m covering.<\/p>\n<p>You read that right. I covered\u00a0<em>Paranoid<\/em>\u00a0by Black Sabbath, and the copyright strike came not from Sabbath\u2019s publisher, but from someone else who had also covered\u00a0<em>Paranoid<\/em>. Same thing happened on a Zeppelin track, a cover band claimed the revenue.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve now entered a world where the algorithm doesn&#8217;t just flag music, it confuses\u00a0<em>influence<\/em>\u00a0with\u00a0<em>infringement<\/em>. Where a dry snare drum and a shuffled groove can be enough to trigger monetisation for someone else.<\/p>\n<p>And that leads to a bigger question,\u00a0<strong>Are we now saying that drum beats, even generic ones, are copyrightable?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ash raised this during our conversation. What happens when someone downloads one of his free grooves (linked below), writes a new song around it, and then gets hit with a claim from an artist who\u00a0<em>thinks<\/em>\u00a0the groove sounds like theirs? Is that where we\u2019re heading?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>Don\u2019t get me wrong, I absolutely believe legends like Clyde Stubblefield and John Bonham\u2019s estate should be compensated. Their grooves are iconic and foundational. But this isn\u2019t that. This is a modern software system hearing a\u00a0<em>similar vibe<\/em>\u00a0and deciding it&#8217;s the same song. And that\u2019s just absurd.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-63297 aligncenter lazyload\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1015\" height=\"571\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-scaled.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-150x84.jpg 150w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-2048x1152.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-80x45.jpg 80w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-320x180.jpg 320w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-302x170.jpg 302w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-267x150.jpg 267w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-40x23.jpg 40w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-160x90.jpg 160w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-20x11.jpg 20w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-640x360.jpg 640w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-1077x606.jpg 1077w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-604x340.jpg 604w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-533x300.jpg 533w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-16x9.jpg 16w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-385x217.jpg 385w, https:\/\/producelikeapro.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/P1112808.00_05_49_21.Still005-1540x866.jpg 1540w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1015px) 100vw, 1015px\" \/><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>Hopefully, AI might eventually help fix this. If machine learning can actually tell the difference between inspired-by and rip-off, between \u201csame feel\u201d and \u201csame recording,\u201d then we might restore some sanity to this space.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>Until then, we\u2019ll keep doing what we do, teaching, creating, celebrating great music, and, in this case, laughing at the madness of it all.<\/p>\n<p>So yes, Ash, you\u2019re officially to blame for my first ever rant video. But I think it was worth it.<\/p>\n<p>What do you think? Should drum grooves be copyrightable? Has the algorithm gone too far? Let us know.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Warren Huart<br \/>\nProduce Like A Pro<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"A_6EGz C_sfJow i_6FIA u_dRV M_0 jb_2vE0wD\">Note<\/h3>\n<ul class=\"M_0 P_0 D_F ek_BB crqN_2vE0wD ha_n\">\n<li class=\"ix_AS A_6EGz u_e69 i_6Fd5 X_6Fd5 p_R dq34_1gjC p34_a L34_0 C34_Z2c8wkG A34_6Mbr\"><span id=\"action-text-0\">Watch the video featuring Ash&#8217;s rant about copyright issues. [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=W7P6zuI9T-g\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=W7P6zuI9T-g<\/a>]<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"ix_AS A_6EGz u_e69 i_6Fd5 X_6Fd5 p_R dq34_1gjC p34_a L34_0 C34_Z2c8wkG A34_6Mbr\"><span id=\"action-text-1\">If interested, download Ash&#8217;s groove used in the video. [<a href=\"https:\/\/producelikeapro.lpages.co\/ash-soan-drum-grooves-form\/\">https:\/\/producelikeapro.lpages.co\/ash-soan-drum-grooves-form\/<\/a>]<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pgRqHOj95jMVideo can&#8217;t be loaded because JavaScript is disabled: RANT &#8211; I&#039;ve Never Done This Before! &#8211; My first and probably last one ever! (https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pgRqHOj95jM) So\u2026 this is a first for me. In over 3,500 videos on the channel, I\u2019ve never done a rant video. Not once. 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