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Logic 10.4 Update: the first to utilize ARA-2

Logic 10.4 Update- the first to utilize ARA-2
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  1. Toby Davis says:

    Interesting.. many questions :

    Is there a limit to the size of Audio file the ARA2 technology can handle all at once?

    You describe ARA2 as both a plugin and a plugin format (i.e. an alternative to VST + AAX), which is it? Does it work as a ‘third party bridge’ between plugin and DAW? ..Or do the plugin manufacturers have to build an ARA2 version of their plugins, in addition to VST + AAX.

    Will the ARA2 technology be more taxing on CPU / RAM? Given that it’s asking the computer to process larger pieces of data all at once.

    Does the ARA2 work with a 64 bit mixing engine? (i.e. what Steinberg have just introduced with Cubase 9.5 and I believe I’m right when I say, Logic and Pro Tools have had for sometime.)

    Does the computer’s hardware / OS affect the compatibility of ARA2? Does it work well with DDR4 ram for example?

    Does ARA2 play nice with Hyperthreading?

    1. I too would love to know these things.

      1. Carlo Libertini says:

        Hey Toby! First, thanks for the great questions. Let’s start at the top. Melodyne is very computer RAM dependent. So as far as file “size” is concerned the more RAM the better. However, I have personally never had an issue processing up to 42 tracks in a session on a system running 16gigs of RAM. Most modern systems are remarkably powerful in general. Should you have a concern, say regarding Post Production for film then you want as much user memory as possible just to be safe… ARA wont incur higher processing power than normal. In fact it is designed to be faster.
        Is ARA2 a plugin or a plugin format? The short answer is both. Melodyne 4 is available as a Stand Alone application, a conventional plugin insert, and an ARA processor in capable DAWs. So, in Logic 10.4 for example one could insert Melodyne (always in the first insert slot on any DAW) if you wanted that typical workflow, Or, with Audio Random Access, one can edit with Melodyne without having to insert and process the audio as if it were part of Logic. Keep in mind that this technology in new to the industry, so wrapping our heads around it may take some experience as well as discussions. DAW developers must update their software to utilize ARA. Likewise, plugin manufactures would have to create a separate ARA version of their products that utilize its advantages…
        It is 64 bit. I believe your computer hardware will not hinder ARA as much as your OS would. It is recommended from my experience to use the latest operating system versions, both Mac and PC.
        As for as Hyper-threading is concerned. I have not had any issues with it at all on my system.
        I would recommend visiting celemony.com and download the latest Melodyne 4 pdf for a handy reference guide.
        Cheers!

        1. Warren Huart says:

          Wow! Thanks for the great response @plap-disqus-ab1991b977dbb108c0a36a3475d0bc48:disqus!! You Rock my friend!

    2. Warren Huart says:

      Great questions @plap-disqus-e44fea3bec53bcea3b7513ccef5857ac:disqus! Let’s see if we can have Carlo answer them!

    3. Carlo Libertini says:

      Hey Toby! First, thanks for the great questions. Let’s start at the top. Melodyne is very computer RAM dependent. So as far as file “size” is concerned the more RAM the better. However, I have personally never had an issue processing up to 42 tracks in a session on a system running 16gigs of RAM. Most modern systems are remarkably powerful in general. Should you have a concern, say regarding Post Production for film then you want as much user memory as possible just to be safe… ARA wont incur higher processing power than normal. In fact it is designed to be faster.
      Is ARA2 a plugin or a plugin format? The short answer is both. Melodyne 4 is available as a Stand Alone application, a conventional plugin insert, and an ARA processor in capable DAWs. So, in Logic 10.4 for example one could insert Melodyne (always in the first insert slot on any DAW) if you wanted that typical workflow, Or, with Audio Random Access, one can edit with Melodyne without having to insert and process the audio as if it were part of Logic. Keep in mind that this technology in new to the industry, so wrapping our heads around it may take some experience as well as discussions. DAW developers must update their software to utilize ARA. Likewise, plugin manufactures would have to create a separate ARA version of their products that utilize its advantages…
      It is 64 bit. I believe your computer hardware will not hinder ARA as much as your OS would. It is recommended from my experience to use the latest operating system versions, both Mac and PC.
      As for as Hyper-threading is concerned. I have not had any issues with it at all on my system.
      I would recommend visiting celemony.com and download the latest Melodyne 4 pdf for a handy reference guide.
      Cheers!

  2. Wow, you have piqued my interest.

    1. Warren Huart says:

      Agreed @plap-disqus-2e65f2f2fdaf6c699b223c61b1b5ab89:disqus I also want to know more!

    2. Carlo Libertini says:

      Glad to hear! There are many new developments throughout the industry, but I feel this kind of technology is leading the way.

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